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Old 27 May 2008, 09:22   #26
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I really don't think anythings gonna help for a good while. Someone has to pay for the cost of the war and we seem to be paying it 20 times over.
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Old 27 May 2008, 09:25   #27
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Think you are right,everything is just so crazy
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Old 27 May 2008, 09:28   #28
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everything goes up in price,except wages of course...unless you are a politician...
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Old 27 May 2008, 09:29   #29
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A couple of points:

I have managed many BP sites so I think I am qualified to answer this.

ALL fuel comes out of the refinery exactly the same, there is no huge "barrels" of Esso fuel and seperate "Barrels" of BP, all tankers feed from the same containers. Any additive is added in the tanker before it sets off from the refinery.

No matter what you all think, there is very very little, if any profit in fuel. It all goes to the government in taxes. A petrol stations profit comes from shop sales.

As for boycotting Esso and BP, I wont be doing that for 2 reasons: I have worked for both companies and have friends who still work there and I don't want to see them out of work, also I wouldn't want to see BP damaged in any way as I have a pension with them!

In my area, Tesco are the most expensive for fuel and BP the cheapest, work that one out!
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Old 27 May 2008, 09:43   #30
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what you are saying just proves the point that yet again its the government and their taxes that are making the people suffer...as always
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Old 27 May 2008, 10:56   #31
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There is one upside to the spiralling petrol prices ... it doens't take as long to put petrol in the car anymore. Used to take a fair few minutes to get twenty quids wirth of fuel into the tank, now it's a matter of seconds!

On a serious note. With the increasing use of cars in countries like India and China then we really are on a loser with this. The OPEC nations need to keep increasing their oil output to match current demand, let alone increase the volume of supply which would help to drive prices down.

Next time I change my car I think I'll trade it in for a horse!
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Old 27 May 2008, 11:07   #32
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a horse it is then lol

we bought our car in sept i think, when we filled the tank from empty last weekend it cost us a whole ten pounds more than it did when we first bought the car....8 MONTHS AGO!!!!
when i look at it like that, this thing really is getting out of hand
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Old 27 May 2008, 11:14   #33
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I drive a diesel, last time I filled up it was £1.30 a litre I usually use Tesco which is a little cheaper, but £40 will do about 400 miles in my car so I really can't complain...I couldn't even consider paying these prices for petrol which wouldn't get me as far, it'll be diesel until I win the lottery!
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Old 27 May 2008, 12:22   #34
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Lucy I think you are on the right tracks there! Diesel sounds the way to go!

My hubs drives a diesel and it sounds like a ruddy tank leaving the drive at 6 am every morning Someone needs to invent a quiet diesel!
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Old 27 May 2008, 12:34   #35
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a horse it is then lol
About time someone invented a car that ran on horse droppings. There's an endless source of that particular fuel at Westminster.

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Old 27 May 2008, 23:51   #36
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Well something has to change. As those of you who know me realise, my work involves a LOT of driving. It is the only way I can manage, due to the equipment I have to carry. £1.30 a litre for diesel is absolutely scandalous. My fuel costs have risen 40% in the last couple of years, and when you consider I fill up the tank at least once a week, and most weeks twice, it is getting ludicrous. When I bought my current car it cost around £55 to fill up from empty. Now it's a shade over £80.

But what really drives me insane is the fact that diesel is so much more expensive than unleaded. It was always cheaper until the government realised that more and more people were switching to derv over petrol because of the savings, so what suddenly happens is that they have to increase the price to make up for the loss in the unleaded taxes. Look how many car manufacturers actually sell more diesels than petrols these days. pretty soon the price difference will mean that the savings you get from diesel will be completely cancelled out by the price difference between diesel and unleaded
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Old 28 May 2008, 00:38   #37
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i wish alcohol was so cheap.. 1.30 litre, on ya go girl lol
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Old 28 May 2008, 00:40   #38
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But what really drives me insane is the fact that diesel is so much more expensive than unleaded. It was always cheaper until the government realised that more and more people were switching to derv over petrol because of the savings, so what suddenly happens is that they have to increase the price to make up for the loss in the unleaded taxes. Look how many car manufacturers actually sell more diesels than petrols these days. pretty soon the price difference will mean that the savings you get from diesel will be completely cancelled out by the price difference between diesel and unleaded

Diesel is amazingly expensive in this country compared to the rest of Europe. According to the AA it now takes at least 45.000 miles on average to recoup the value of a Diesel car compared to a petrol car. The only thing I can say is relatively cheap compared to for example The Netherlnds is the actual price of many cars and car tax, though the latter is scheduled to go up heavily in the UK. Wonder if they will manage to go ahead with that now, doubt it.
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Old 28 May 2008, 00:53   #39
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a horse it is then lol
Or Shanks' Pony

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Old 28 May 2008, 11:14   #40
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I got an email from my Auntie in New Zealand this morning about petrol prices and their fuel is a lot cheaper over there anyway but it might make you drivers feel a bit better!!!!

The price of Gas versus Printer Ink
All these examples do NOT imply that gasoline is cheap; it just illustrates how outrageous some prices are....

You will be really shocked by the last one!
(At least, I was...)

Compared with Gasoline......

Think a gallon of gas is expensive?

This makes one think, and also puts things in perspective.

Diet Snapple 16 oz $1.29 ... $10.32 per gallon

Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz $1.19 .........$9.52 per gallon

Gatorade 20 oz $1.59 ..... $10.17 per gallon

Ocean Spray 16 oz $1.25 .......... $10.00 per gallon

Brake Fluid 12 oz $3.15 ....... $33.60 per gallon

Vick's Nyquil 6 oz $8.35 .. $178.13 per gallon

Pepto Bismol 4 oz $3.85 .. $123.20 per gallon

Whiteout 7 oz $1.39 ....... . $25.42 per gallon (Tippex)

Scope 1.5 oz $0.99 ......$84.48 per gallon (Mouthwash)


And this is the REAL KICKER...


Evian water 9 oz $1.49..$21.19 per gallon! $21.19 for WATER and the buyers don't even know the source

(Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)


Ever wonder why printers are so cheap?


So they have you hooked for the ink.
Someone calculated the cost of the ink at...............
(you won't believe it....but it is true........)
$5,200 a gal. (five thousand two hundred dollars)


So, the next time you're at the pump,be glad your car doesn't run on water, Scope, or Whiteout, Pepto Bismol, Nyquil or God forbid, Printer Ink!


Just a little humor to help ease the pain of your next trip to the pump...

And - If you don't pass this along to at least one person,
Your muffler will fall off!!

Okay, your muffler won't really fall off...but, you might run out of toilet paper
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Old 28 May 2008, 11:17   #41
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True, printer ink is actually more expensive than the fuel that the space shuttle runs off.

Love the Evian one as well, Naive, priceless lol
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Old 28 May 2008, 12:52   #42
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It's bad enough that my printer runs off printer ink!! Pay to print elsewhere now - it works out a lot cheaper. I remember printing a photo (actually it was a montage of photos but it can't have been any bigger than A5 size) from a brand new ink cartridge which after printing showed as being half empty. Those cartridges cost £27 each, so that was around £13+ for one picture.

I was at uni at the time (7 and a half years ago!) - I could eat for a week on £13. I've never forgotten it.

Sorry, just something that has always irked me! For the rest of my degree I resorted to printing in black & white/economy or going to the library to print colour pages for 30p each!

The thing about water really does make you think though! But then, most of the water I drink is from the tap coz I have a water filter at home...or during my working day, work pay for it at less than £4 for 18.5 litres - now that IS a price I'd be happy paying for petrol!!
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Old 28 May 2008, 15:43   #43
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Indeed Ross

I remember when you passed your test lol. Good to see you around btw
Thanks Deb Still loitering

It was good to see the lorry drivers protesting yesterday. As for this 2p increase again real soon it really peevz me off. They put taxes up and everyting but they dont increase your wages to pay the bloody thing!
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Old 28 May 2008, 16:57   #44
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They put taxes up and everyting but they dont increase your wages to pay the bloody thing!
Everything goes up at a faster rate than wages! Houses, transport, food....
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Old 29 May 2008, 03:00   #45
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I got an email from my Auntie in New Zealand this morning about petrol prices and their fuel is a lot cheaper over there anyway but it might make you drivers feel a bit better!!!!
Petrol prices over here are cheaper than in the UK, but it's all relative, as people in the UK generally earn more money than over here. So most things kinda work out to cost pretty much the same.

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Old 29 May 2008, 10:18   #46
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i think the problem is, where things used to go up in relation to inflation and therefore was tolerable, recently we have seen stuff go up above inflation which is making those who dont have a pool of money to dip into struggle
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Old 29 May 2008, 16:56   #47
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If the price of petrol was high enough, then a lot of cars would be taken off the road, making the air cleaner for us non drivers and reducing the nations carbon footprint.


*runs away very quickly*
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Old 29 May 2008, 17:21   #48
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If the price of petrol was high enough, then a lot of cars would be taken off the road, making the air cleaner for us non drivers and reducing the nations carbon footprint.


*runs away very quickly*
And lorries wouldn't afford to be able to drive to pubs to stock them!!!!!
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Old 29 May 2008, 17:23   #49
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And lorries wouldn't afford to be able to drive to pubs to stock them!!!!!
Doesn't matter, because nobodys in the pubs to drink the beer anyway

Michael, it was a joke mate, ignore my comment and on with the topic
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Old 29 May 2008, 17:47   #50
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Figured that all by myself lol
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