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Originally Posted by White of High
... yes, HCTB was for money. The only video (Los Angeloser) was a kitsch, they recorded two rap songs with rap stars and 'celebrities' from a TV show, he had famous guest stars like Jack Black and Dr. House on piano. C'mon, why not his old friend actor-musican Dennis Quaid? Because he is not trendy anymore? All HCTB was about business...
It can be silly but don't be naiv, music is more money industry than hobby in the last 20 years...
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No-one said you did. You said Bat2 and HCTB were. Clearly the BACKERS of both, indeed ALL, would need to see the potential for commercial success. But you implied Meat made them for the money.
IN YOUR OPINION! Not in mine, nor in that of others. All the things you list and take as "evidence" are not evidence to me. Meat has told us why he used the artists he collaborated with on HCTB .. and I believe him. But then I have a rather higher opinion of and admiration for the man than you seem to.
We know why he recorded SITS with Lil John .. nothing to do with commercialism for HCTB, because it was released as a single after that, and then included on HIAH. He liked the song Backbone recorded FOR CHARITY, and it had a brilliant fit with what he wanted to say on HIAH (as well as contributing to the charities again I'd have thought). Recording and working with Lil John got him interested in rap, and we know how the collaboration with Chuck D came about .. just as we know how that with Hugh Laurie did. He and Jack Black (this WAS on HCTB) had long wanted to work together. In my view you confuse Meat's collaborative and inclusive bent with commercialism.
The decision to produce a video for Los Angeloser would have been commercial .. made largely by those providing the funding. For heaven's sake .. videos aren't made to be nice for a few fans .. they are made for commercial reasons. No-one has suggested the backers aren't motivated entirely by bottom line profit .. that WOULD be naive.
However to imply that those of us who see Meat for the creative artist he is, driven far more by that and not by money, (simply as far as I can see because we don't agree with your propensity to see him in a negative light) as naive, is as irritatingly dismissive as it is rude.
Post an opinion and we can offer an alternative. Post your opinion as proven fact and we will disagree. Call me naive and I will say that to me you seem very quick to see the negative in a an who in my view, and that of many others here, is an artist motivated by the work rather than the money. We're not talking about any artist .. we're talking about Meat.
He has said many, many times, on this board as well, he doesn't do things for the money .. whether it be records, tours, films. He has reached a stage in his life and has been sufficiently hard-working and successful that he does not need to do what he does for the money. His projects need to be sufficiently business focused that he can get backing to do them, but making money is not why he does what he does. I believe him. So also do many, I'd say most, on here.
Caryl